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Post by Sandy on Oct 3, 2014 20:30:57 GMT -8
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Post by alyx on Oct 4, 2014 12:23:49 GMT -8
I would like each of you to answer this question in text:
- Who on the jury do you think SHOULD vote for you, and why? Please provide specific reasoning.Here are the videos of my other questions to each of you. Good luck! Chris: Debbie: Joey:
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Post by Joey on Oct 4, 2014 15:43:11 GMT -8
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Oct 4, 2014 17:15:09 GMT -8
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Post by Christopher on Oct 4, 2014 17:15:09 GMT -8
- Who on the jury do you think SHOULD vote for you, and why? Please provide specific reasoning. I would like each of you to answer this question in text:
I think everyone should vote for me to win. =) I think I played the best game, and that every juror should vote for the player that played the best game.
Ryan - I had a strong 1-1 bond with Ryan. I would tell him I would go to the end with him, that I had his back, etc. I knew he was going to be a strong player. I won't go into the pre-merge dynamics of me trying to gather numbers to eventually blindside him instead of Nicole leaving after Nikki. However I will say at the F13 he never told me about his alliance with Rico/Jared. I had to hear that from Jared first, I knew that he had a hold over Craig again, I knew he had you and Joey loving him with Quintz, etc. He was a great player that I needed to take out, like Dru Hillard, because of his social and strategic bonds over everyone in the merge game. So I took him out as a threat, strategically and socially. He had Rico/Allan loving him as well, which I wanted Allan for myself. I also didn't know where Rico stood since I wasn't in the game with him very long. Therefore, I felt like I had to strike in the early merge against him. I couldn't wait and let him have numbers later on to do more things.
Taking out Ryan = Strategic because I was afraid of him and the bonds he had socially/strategically= A good reason for him to respect/vote for me to win
Rico - I didn't get to play the majority of this game with Rico, but I knew he was close to Ryan. I knew Rico/Allan both loved Ryan which was another bond that I knew Ryan had. I knew I had to take out Rico after F13.
Rico leaving was directly because I could never work with him after blindsiding Ryan = Strategic = A good reason for him to respect/vote for me to win based on my game socially and strategically.
Allan - I wanted to work with Allan, because I felt like I had something over Him/Debbie's relationship due to helping Allan within the Dru Hillard vote and staying in this game. I told him majority of what was happening in the game, and when his name came up (Even when you said it, Alyx). I thought he had my back 100% but doubted it when I heard Dave knew about him being a target. At that point I was still waiting for the counter-Chris group to strike against me for Ryan/Rico leaving. I was ready for Dave/Craig to gather Allan/Fei, for them to not fully trust in my lies. For Alyx to strike against her Japan-Alliance Idea. It didn't work, and taking him out and the way it went down sucked because it made my end-game plans a bit all over the place.
Ideally, Allan was an out to eventually get out Jared or Debbie, to maybe work with Nicole/Me/Allan to take out Joey if I needed to based on his relation with you, Alyx. I had more options with Allan in this game then not.
I had Allan's back until that round he left. Taking him out was to prevent a counter alliance that I thought was forming due to the lie = Strategic/Social move = A good reason for him to respect/vote for me to win based on my game.
Alyx - For you in this game, everyone that you wanted to have take me out. I, in better terms, had under my thumb. Cocky as it sounds, it was the way I felt. Joey trusted me and was telling me everything you said about a Japan alliance/wanting me out. Jared/Debbie had my back, and didn't want to truly vote me out. They were telling me as you went to them. Nicole was with me. Mike was with me. Fei wasn't in on the plan to take me out because of the bond I was re-gathering with her. Your plan failed, even though it would have been drastically amazing because of the bonds socially and strategically I had prior to that round.
I had the numbers way earlier then you prob even wanted to get them after me = I socially/strategically was ahead of you = A good reason for you respect the game move to also counter and take you out.
Craig - I feel like Craig and I never got the needed conversation after F13. I wanted a Nicole/You/I alliance, I wanted to do something with you in this game. But you were very with Ryan/Rico, and you didn't understand everything that went down in Final 13. Which I wish you were more with me, but obviously didn't truly want Ryan to go. I think I strategically/socially was able to do more then him in this game = A good reason for him to vote for me to win based on my game strategically/socially.
Dave - Dave knew that I was the leak/likely told Craig in this game, and he knew how good of a player I was strategically/socially and I feel like if he was going to vote for the best player it would be me. He saw my dynamics socially during the Dru Hillard vote first-hand. Also when talking about taking out Ryan and working with him/Fei/Me/Nicole earlier in the game.
Nicole - Nicole saw everything that I did in the game to try and take out Ryan, and at F13. She knew how i played strategically and socially. She called me a shady bitch because she knew how set I was. She even said in one of her videos how remarkable it was. For that, I think her voting for the best player would also easily be me.
Mike - Mike played with me a bit one on one, but also had a failed attempt to take me out of the game. His best move would have been to try and tell Jared/Debbie to not let Fei/Me/Joey to get to the top 5 together. He failed to realize something under him, and socially/strategical was outplayed. A great guy, but a plan that was developed way too late in the merge game. If he was to vote for the best player out of respect/the best move, I feel like he would also vote for me. He saw first hand how an attack against Chris would turn out.
Jared - Jared knew I was a shady bitch as well. He knew in the merge game how much stuff I had going on, and how close I was to Joey. I told him majority of my conversations with Nicole, etc. We had a strong one on one social bond. For that reason, I feel like he saw me first hand as well. He knew how I was doing socially/strategically, and if he was voting of the best player in the final three it would also be me.
Fei - I lost Fei at the Final 13. But she knew how I played prejury(pre juror?), she knew what I was thinking towards the end of the merge after Dave left and I let her in on some of the dynamics of the game again. She knew how in control I was. If she was voting for the best player, I feel like she would also vote for me. She first-hand also saw me play this game during key rounds.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:38:21 GMT -8
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Post by Christopher on Oct 4, 2014 17:38:21 GMT -8
~*Answer to Alyx Rice's Video Question*~
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Oct 4, 2014 18:12:24 GMT -8
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Post by Joey on Oct 4, 2014 18:12:24 GMT -8
Who on the jury do I think should vote for me and why?
Before I get into individual reasons, I will say I think everyone should vote for me because I feel I played the best game.
Ryan: Ryan should vote for me to win because I was a flexible player. I had an alliance with himself and Alyx, along with an alliance with Chris throughout most of the early to middle stages of the game. When we merged, I had every intention of sticking back with Quintz, but when it wasn't going my way, I quickly turned it around, made a new plan and sought out the end game with another group of people that I put together.
Rico: I think Rico should vote for me because he thinks I played the best game, and while I will never claim to play the best game of all 30 players, I do feel I played the best of the final three. (And I mostly don't want to fight with Rico anymore ;_; so if he says I played the best game ILL TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT.)
Allan: Allan should vote for me because he claims he played a "disposable" game where he felt worthless and it frustrated him. I hope Allan would recognize that I was someone who was always in the majority vote (whether I was the one deciding who went or just in the know of who was going). I was also someone who wasn't technically disposable since I was never voted for. If those were two aspects of his game that frustrated him, I hope he will reward me with his vote as someone who avoided feeling both of those things.
Alyx: You should vote for me to win this game, because I told myself I had too much respect for the game to let friendships blind me this time (which I let happen to me in Season 12 and caused me to lose). While I adore Chris as a person, I wanted him in the end not for that reason, but because I thought I played a better game than him. I did not think I played a better game than you which is why I felt you needed to go. It didnt make my friendship with you any less important and I adore you.
Craig: Craig should vote for me because even though he promised his vote to Alyx (and indirectly myself), I didn't take him up on his offer because I was already in a good enough position that I didn't need an extra vote.
Dave: Hopefully after watching my video Dave will want to vote for me because he will realize I was just as much in control of this game as Chris was. Not one tribal council I attended was a surprise, because I was a part of all the decision making. While he may think Chris convinced me to vote out my number 1 ally Alyx, the fact of the matter is, she wasnt my number 1 ally..Chris was. He may have made the same promises to Fei and Nicole, but the fact of the matter is he held up his promise with me because I knew he was loyal to me moreso than anyone else..and he proved it to me time and time again which made it dumb for me to want him out since his game was falling to pieces as every round passed.
Nicole: I believe Nicole should vote for me because while she feels Chris had everyone in his pocket, the fact of the matter is...while some of those people were in Chris's pocket...he was in mine. He told me all of the plans he had with the other players, and I was totally fine letting him make empty promises that I knew could screw him over, because all it was going to do was get me farther in the game and hopefully the win.
Mike: Mike should vote for me to win because we had a conversation where he stated it would be fun an exciting for an old-school person to take this game. He thought I was in on his plan, but what he failed to realize is that I had already created a structured alliance at final 12, that took each other all the way to the final 5. I wanted Mike along with others to see me as a non threat so a. they would tell me their plans when wanting to switch a vote and b. wouldnt want to target me at tribal council.
Jared: Jared should vote for me to win this game because he was the most outspoken person I think from merge on and I respected that a ton. When it came time for the rest of us to speak up, I think Debbie had a hard time articulating at tribal council as to why she deserved to be there/win, and Chris hid on mute the entire time, not speaking at all in an effort to think the jury wouldnt see him. While I was not vocal about most of my plans (because outting them would have blown up my game), I was also not afraid to defend myself as seen at the one specific tribal council where Jared was complimenting my gameplay and how I created the alliance of four and instead of letting him defend me (like Debbie did), I spoke up for myself and shared exactly what it was as to why I felt I deserved a place in the game and at the end. I didnt let him speak for me like Debbie, or hide on mute like Chris.
Fei: I feel Fei should vote for me because while I played a similar game to Chris in terms of strategy, I was no bullshit with Fei and I hope she appreciated that. When you approached me after Final 13 telling me you didn't trust me I was honest with you and told you I was weary. When you said you didn't feel included in strategy talk, I told you I was sorry but it was how I felt previously. I didn't sugar coat until the final 5 where I sold the idea of a tripz final three idea. The only reason I did this (and also the only reason I really fluffed you), was because even though you say you didnt talk to Jared and Debbie, the option was still there, and I wanted to make sure you voted with us.
SORRY FOR ALL THE COMMAS I GET A LITTLE COMMA HAPPY WHEN I TYPE SHIT.
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Post by Debbie on Oct 5, 2014 7:29:16 GMT -8
Ryan – I didn’t get to play with you in this game but if I had, you would have known this: I played a game that, admittedly, was not showy, nor, at its heart malicious. I was not willing to slash and burn, use and abuse, the entire game, although there were times when it was utilized. I was loyal unless I felt threatened. I asserted myself when necessary, stepped back when necessary, and worked my social game well enough to push through to the end. At the end, that strategy found me outwitting, outplaying, and outlasting players I thought would eat me up and spit me out very early in the game. For that I am proud and ask that you vote for me to win.
Alex - This has been a tough game for us with the Sassy vote being the start of hard feelings and harsh words between us. I do not regret initiating that move but, as you know, I regret HOW it transpired and how much I hurt you. I could write a lot here, Alex, but instead will remind you what you told me that night when I went to you to talk it out. You said: I am proud of you. You are playing your own game. You didn’t do that in Japan but you are doing it here. And, Alex, to the end, I did. That’s why I believe you should vote for me.
Allan – It’s was always my intention to work with you until deep into the merge. Not only did I believe you would be a steady vote, I value you on a personal level. The round you went out, it was truly supposed to be Craig, just as I had said. Right before the vote, that plan came tumbling down and depending upon two versions of the story, for different reasons. Both surrounding Alyx. I was not going to put your name down until you PMed me telling me to do it with love. I honestly thought you were saying for me to do it, even though I didn’t want to, as a way to protect me in the game. Now, I see that it was because you thought I had lied and planned it the whole time. I did not. I worked my hardest to make sure you stayed in the game but in the end I was not able to save you. I respectfully ask for your vote, Allan, because of how hard I played the game and for the fact that I did have your back and tried my best where you were concerned.
Alyx – It is true, I was excited to play with you and when you set up the call and named you, me, and Joanne, “Elladies,” I loved it. But something happened over the next 24 hours where it just didn’t feel like you were really invested in that ladies alliance, and Joanne and I pulled back. I heard that my name was mentioned by you (true or false, that is what I heard) and the challenge happened, and it was a bloodbath. I had no want to come after you or Joey in that challenge but felt attacked and returned the favor. We were never able to reconnect, understandably so. In the end, I had to make the decision as to who I could trust, be allied with, and have the best chance to go to the finals with. Based upon the outcome, my choices were correct. All I can say is that I was never malicious. I never broke a promise to you. I have played a solid game that was stealthy but, for the most part, was not slimy, mean-spirited, or devoid of real gameplay. I ask that you consider that as you get ready to vote.
Craig – Sadly, we did not connect when the merge occurred so I will keep this simple. I played a strong game of some big moves to very small moves. I used my social game as my basis for everything that I did and, in the end, it worked. I did my best to treat people well, although I sometimes failed miserably. I was loyal to those I believed were loyal to me and learned from Japan that sometimes, you just have to cut people loose even though it hurts. My game may not have been the box office spectacular quality but it got the job done with the least amount of damage to the people I played with. For that, I ask for your vote.
Dave – There were so many times, I wanted to connect with you on a gameplay basis. I attempted to do so through my social game but for whatever reason, it seemed that you were not interested in discussing the game with me. I do not know if you felt I was unnecessary to your game, or if it was something else. That, of course, was your prerogative. The biggest move you made with me was when you realized you were leaving. You made a solid pitch, but too late. As I had said to you days before, I truly thought that you – out of everyone – had the best chance of winning this game. Had we not taken you out, I believe one of us would not be in F3. I made my choices based upon many factors, including if I had a strong enough relationship to believe I could move forward with that person. Unfortunately, I did not feel that from you. I fought hard to get to where I am and was honest with you at the end. I hope you respect that I had to make the choices that I felt were best for me and ask for your vote.
Nicole – My game was strategically social. Did I initiate moves like Joey and Chris? Yes. Was the best part of my game social like Chris’? Yes, it was, with the exception of my people management style. I never wanted anyone to come away feeling like I had used and abused them just to get to the end. I cared that they didn’t feel that. Was I fully successful in that? No. But, in the end, I managed the people around me, making sure the ones I wanted and needed knew I was loyal and that others did what was necessary to help move me forward in the game. It was a quieter, less bloody, path to the f3. But, it got me here. For that, I ask for your vote.
Mike – From the time we were part of the majority alliance on Roma to your return in the Hestia Comeback, I was happy to play with you. Unfortunately, by the time you won your way back into the game, things had changed but I was not going to signal just how much. Instead, I took it upon myself to act as “protector of the outcast.” (although, I hate that word) I made a final 2 pact with you knowing well that it was something I would never keep. And, up until the end, you did not know what was really transpiring in the late rounds of the game. It was a hard thing to do because I genuinely like you, yet, it had to be done to get to the f3. I know you respect the game and the moves within the game, I ask for your vote. <3
Jared – You pretty much saw it all, Jared. From moves that I wanted and made sure happened, to my social game. Sometimes, we were good cop/bad cop with me mostly pushing you to play the latter role. We were a loyal pair from the beginning. For all of my gameplay that you know, that no one else does, to the fact that I remain loyal … and so much more … I ask for your vote.
Fei - Fei, I wish we had played together earlier. I truly believe that had we done so, things would have been different. I think both of us came into the merge with feelings and trepidation about the other based upon other people’s perception/agenda. Understandable but it did not serve our relationship in the game. In the end, I believe we probably played a similar game in that we were quieter than most, held our cards closer while being social, and using emotion as a driver/connector in the game, without apology. You said in one of the challenges that I was the most honorable left in the game. I will be honest, I had moments where that was not true. But for the hard fought game I played, mistakes and all, I ask for your vote at this final tribal council.
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Post by alyx on Oct 5, 2014 11:04:35 GMT -8
Craig: up to 7 minutes. Dave: 7:00 - 8:00 8:00 to the end, Chris and Joey
This one was LONG, but there are a lot of valid points. Hopefully the people that have already made up their minds will look at things from another perspective. If I'm wrong about my points, please let me know.
Debbie I'm making a video for you now.
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Post by Joey on Oct 5, 2014 12:25:39 GMT -8
ilu. <3
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Oct 5, 2014 13:09:09 GMT -8
Post by craig on Oct 5, 2014 13:09:09 GMT -8
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Oct 5, 2014 13:15:36 GMT -8
Post by alyx on Oct 5, 2014 13:15:36 GMT -8
Thanks for your response.
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Oct 5, 2014 14:10:00 GMT -8
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Post by Christopher on Oct 5, 2014 14:10:00 GMT -8
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Oct 5, 2014 15:00:56 GMT -8
Post by alyx on Oct 5, 2014 15:00:56 GMT -8
response to debbie
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Post by Debbie on Oct 5, 2014 15:33:18 GMT -8
Hi, Alyx. I won't respond in video but will say: thank you for your critique and thank you for the kind words. <3
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Oct 5, 2014 18:07:14 GMT -8
Post by alyx on Oct 5, 2014 18:07:14 GMT -8
Chris - You said that you played a flawless game, but you admit that you didn't have control over at least 1 round (the round that I got the votes to turn against Allan). Additionally the time that we decided to betray Kurtis and keep you in the game. You or Fei were supposed to be gone. Kurtis got himself out. It wasn't to save you as much as it was to get rid of him. Come down off your high-horse, please. Last I recall, Steph Katz wasn't playing this game. No livestock allowed. <3 katz.
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